In Bed with the Elephant
Hosted by former CBC journalist Adrian Harewood, In Bed with the Elephant is a podcast for people who are passionate about ideas, and crave conversation and debate. Each week, Adrian (now a journalism professor at Carleton University) interviews a guest, or guests, with special knowledge and a unique perspective on what’s happening in Canada — and around the world. The goal is to enlighten and entertain, and we’ll talk about everything. From politics to sports, and from land grabs to trade wars. We will tackle big, uncomfortable questions, and wrestle with taboos. We will disrupt preconceptions and challenge convention. We will transport you to distant lands each week, and bring you home again. Welcome to a podcast that always tackles the elephant in the room. Ricochet Media, an award-winning non-profit outlet known for public-service journalism, is the producer of this podcast. Our funding comes from readers and listeners like you, and charitable foundations. We want to hear from you! Send us your feedback to editor@ricochet.media. Who would you like to hear on the show?
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In November 2024 the Syrian government of Bashar Al Assad was toppled in a revolution. The Assad family dynasty ruled over Syria with iron fists for over 50 years. Maher Arar knew the Assad regime all too well.
In late September 2002 just a year after the Al-Qaeda led September 11th attacks on the United States and in the midst of the so called War on Terror that followed 9/11, Maher Arar, a Syrian-born-McGill University educated engineer, was on his way home to Canada following a family trip to Tunisia. While on a stopover at New York’s JFK Airport, Arar was detained by US authorities and held for 12 days. He was then sent secretly on a private plane to Syria through Jordan. Maher Arar would spend a harrowing 10 months and ten days in some of Syria’s most notorious prisons where he was interrogated and tortured. Following a nationwide campaign led by his wife Monia Mazigh, Arar was released from Syrian detention and returned home to Ottawa in October 2003.
A few months later the Canadian government established a “Commission of Inquiry that examined his case.” Finally in January 2007 the Canadian government officially apologized to Maher Arar and paid him over $10 million dollars in compensation for its complicity in his detention.
Adrian Harewood spoke to Maher Arar in mid-December 2024 just weeks after the revolution that swept Syria. They discussed the political earthquake occurring in Syria, his memories of growing up during the Assad dictatorship, his time in the Syrian gulag and his hopes for the people of Syria.

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In May 2022, the Italian lawyer and academic FrancescaAlbanese became the first woman to assume the role of UNSpecial Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories. At thetime she couldn’t have predicted how events in the fall of 2023,about 18 months into her tenure, would transform the lives ofmillions of Palestinians and Israelis, and thrust her into the globalspotlight.
Hamas’ deadly attack on Israel, on October 7th , 2023, killed 1200people including over 600 civilians and 39 children. Israel’ssubsequent attacks on Gaza have now killed over 50,000 people,including over 14,500 children according to UNICEF, displacedmillions and flattened much of the territory.
Francesca Albanese has become a polarizing global personalitydue to her forceful and unrelenting defense of the rights ofPalestinians and her equally powerful condemnation of Israel’sprotracted assault on the Palestinian people.
Albanese has consistently called Israel’s actions in Gazagenocide. And has demanded that the world stop the carnage.
As a UN Special Rapporteur, Francesca Albanese travels theworld giving interviews, delivering speeches and filing extensivereports. Her job is high profile, stressful and comes withenormous responsibility, and considerable risk. It’s also unpaid.Francesca Albanese is effectively a devoted volunteer whoenthusiastically gives of her free labour. The job of SpecialRapporteur consumes her. But she thinks the sacrifice is worth it.Despite facing intense opposition from the United States, Canada,Israel, France and Germany, in April 2025 Francesca Albanesewas reappointed by the UN’s Human Rights Council to a three-year term as the UN’s Special Rapporteur on the occupiedPalestinian Territories. It means she will be in the position until2028.
In November 2024 Francesca Albanese came to Canada and it isthen that I had a chance to sit down with her when she paid a visitto our studio in Ottawa. What followed was a wide-rangingconversation about the plight of the Palestinian people, thehorrors that the world has been witnessing in Gaza, allegationsthat she is anti-Semitic and her own personal journey.

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Our guest today is Andrew Johnston, a professor of late 19th and 20th Century US History at Carleton University in Ottawa. He’s a specialist in imperialism and foreign relations, liberalism and pluralism in American social thought, and the history of international thought.
Donald Trump’s second presidency has already been a game changer. His brazen public statements about his desire to annex Canada and slap tariffs on imports entering the US from Canada seems to have fundamentally altered the nature of the Canada – US relationship. Transforming perhaps for all time, the way Canadians see their American neighbors and possibly transforming the way Canadians understand themselves.
For most of the last century Canadians have imagined the United States as a friendly neighbour, a vital trading partner, a trusted ally. And yet in mere months the ground has shifted under Canadians’ feet. Join us for this episode of In Bed with the Elephant hosted by Adrian Harewood.

Tuesday Apr 08, 2025
Tuesday Apr 08, 2025
Stephen Maher is an award winning columnist and investigative reporter who has writtenfor Postmedia News, iPolitics, and Maclean’s. His most recentbook is called The Prince: The Turbulent Reign of Justin Trudeau tellsthe story of one of the more tumultuous prime ministerial tenures inCanadian history.
In early January 2025, Canada’s federal Conservatives seemed headedfor a landslide victory in the upcoming election.Polls suggested the party led by Pierre Poilievre was in the lead by asmany as 20 percentage points over the incumbent Liberals.But then Canadian politics took a turn.
In February, US President Donald Trump started belittling Canada’sPrime Minister Justin Trudeau, calling him Governor.
He then raised alarm bells by brazenly threatening Canada’s economyand its sovereignty, vowing to slap tariffs on Canadian goods enteringthe US market and stating his intention to annex his northern neighbourand make it the 51 st state.
In March, the unpopular Trudeau, in power for 9 years, finally steppeddown as Prime Minister and Liberal leader and was replaced by MarkCarney former Governor of the Bank of Canada and Bank of England.Canada is now in the middle of an election campaign and polls are nowpointing towards a Liberal victory. Some suggest the Mark Carney ledGrits could even win a majority. It’s a remarkable change of fortune forthe once beleaguered party.
Adrian Harewood sits down with Stephen to discuss the 2025 Federal Election